Conor Oberst did not hold back when sharing his opinions on Elon Musk and Grimes in a recent interview.

While speaking to NME in an interview published Tuesday (Sept. 17), the singer/guitarist voluntarily offered up his opinions on the Tesla tech founder and “Oblivion” musician — who share three children — in response to a question about Bright Eyes’ upcoming new album Five Dice, All Threes containing a reference to Musk.

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“Would you like to hear my thoughts on Elon Musk?” Oberst asked. “Well, I think he’s one of the biggest pieces of sh– to ever walk the f—ing earth. I think he’s ruining culture one step at a time. I think he’s a megalomaniac.”

“I think Grimes sucks,” the “First Day of My Life” singer continued before circling right back to the X owner. “He’s the richest man in the world, which probably says more about humanity than him. He didn’t invent anything — same with f—ing Steve Jobs; they just got rich off other people’s ideas. And I will never buy a Tesla for that f—ing reason. I’ll buy an electric car, but I won’t buy sh– from that motherf—er ever.”

Oberst’s comments come as Musk’s name has been making headlines even more often than usual, thanks to the businessman’s support of Donald Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign. For instance, he recently responded to Taylor Swift‘s endorsement of Democratic opponent Kamala Harris by tweeting, “Fine Taylor … you win … I will give you a child and guard your cats with my life,” a comment that Hillary Clinton later slammed as “rotten and creepy” and “another way of saying rape.”

Like Swift — who expressed her fears surrounding artificial intelligence in her endorsement of Harris — Oberst told NME that he’s also wary of AI technology and its recent rapid development. “I’m not saying that technology has no value,” he said. “I just think it has no value in art. I mean, just leave art alone. Can we have one little sliver of society where we aren’t slaves to tech companies’ bullsh–? Let there be some humanity left for your grandchildren.”

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